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Finally, today I got to get credit for the subjects I studied back in Baghdad in my college.
I've been waiting for this since last summer, my papers were stuck up at the Jordanian Ministry of Higher education coz they're not verifying the iraqi degrees these days nor papers from Iraqi colleges. So I was asked by the deanship of my new college to get the papers coz otherwise they won't let me continue my studies and that I have to go back to the first grade and restudy all the subjects that I have already finished studying. So I was left with no choice and that I became convinced that they will not give credit for the stuff I studied back in Baghdad and that if I stay here I would have to get back to the zero point and would have to restudy everything.
Then I was introduced to a iraqi student who was elected as member, representing the iraqi students in the college who constitute nearly 75% of the college, as a member of the student council. She told me that I should get my papers even if they're not varified to the deanship of the college and that they would let me continue my studies to the end but they won't let me graduate until I bring them the varified papers, and so I did, and finally had most of my subjects credited and registered for me.
It really saddens me how they are dealing with iraqis, and how humulating situations the iraqi students are left in.
I went to the professor who is responsible for dealing with the crediting of degrees of iraqi students and asked him why he didn't equalize some of the subjects, the guy was logical by saying that he can't do anything more than what he did coz he was controlled by a strict regulations coming from the higher chairmanship of the university, which state not to equalize more than 50% of the subjects that the iraqi students have taken back in iraq.
And I said ok, but I didn't reach 50% yet, I only finished 2 years out of 5 back in iraq, why wouldn't you equalize them?, so he went on saying that "why should I?", "what would make me believe that you really did take these subjects?", "What would assure me that you really attended lectures back there???".
My answer was strict and really sensible, and you get to judge.
I told him that when I first came here I had subjects of the 3rd year depending on the obligation that I made that if you don't equallize the first to years I would retake them, right? he said "yes". I said ok, did I or not pass these subjects? he said "what diference would it make if you did pass or not?", I told him then what difference would it make if I took the subjects of the 5th year before the subjects of the 3rd year? (I was really pissed off by his answer), I said, you won't let me study the subjects of the 4th year unless you equallize the stuff that I took back in baghdad, right? and he said "sure", I said "why?" he said that "you need a base to walk on, you have to take some subjects before you go further studying the hard ones", I said "ok, now you started to talk with sense, then lets get back to the first question I asked on how did I pass them if I did not have a base?"
His tongue was tied and didn't know what to say, and he went on saying its not in my hand, I'm following regulations and blah blah blah, I tunred my back to him when he was talking and walked away.
There are many cases similar to mine of Iraqis who didn't get full credit for what they have studied back in Iraq.
So the same girl I mentioned above who I was introduced to is making a campaign and she's bringing the iraqis who have such problems together to go to talk to the chairman of the university.
The meeting is arranged tomorrow 2 pm, and we'll see what we can do, and would he be mercifull with us or he would just continue the jordanian aversion for iraqis.
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It seems to me that the people who should verify your papers are the administration at the college in Iraq. They should be able to provide a letter confirming that you studied and passed the modules you claim. I don't think this is just a problem for Iraqi students in Jordan - it affects many students who want to move from a course in one country to an equivalent course in another, or even between colleges in the same country.

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Good to see you posting more.

Do you know if your brother had the same problems in the US?

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Nabil said...

Don Cox,
Did I not made my self clear??
how can I apply for a new college if I didn't already have papers confirming my situation from my college back in baghdad and the Iraqi higher education ministry and the iraqi foreigner affaris ministry and the iraqi embassy in Jordan?
I gave them all the necessary papers.
its not office work requirements, its selfish work requirements

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Nice to see you again, Nabil. I'm glad to see that things are moving ahead for you.

he said that "you need a base to walk on, you have to take some subjects before you go further studying the hard ones", I said "ok, now you started to talk with sense, then lets get back to the first question I asked on how did I pass them if I did not have a base?"

Very good use of logic in an argument. :)

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"Did I not made my self clear??"_______Not quite. You didn't say that the papers fully document exactly what modules you have passed. Anyway, I hope you get a good result from the meeting. Let us know.

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Jeffrey said...

Nabil,

It's standard for universities here in the US to accept around 50% of one's transfer credits from another university.

You're being an ass.

*

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Nabil said...

Jeffery
Read what I wrote before making yourself a fool
I didn't not cross 50% yet
Idiot

Jeffrey said...

Nabil,

Keep whining. It's one of your strengths.

Heh heh heh.

By the way, where's your brother these days? Still in the Great Satan?! Say it ain't so.

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I realize that your situation is extremely frustrating to you, but your situation is similar to many students in the USA. If you change schools your credits will be scrutinized and may or may not be accepted by the new university. Your frustration and anger may be getting in the way of your understanding the position of your new school. Give me one reason why you should be given credit for your courses without proof, after all their reputation is based on the quality of the students they graduate. Instead of banging your head against a wall with them, why not go after the Iraqi's who are with holding your transcripts. It seems to me that they are the bad guys in this injustice

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As a college professor myself, I know that this all comes down to money. Every university wants to get as much tuition as it can be requiring students to take as many classes as possible before they can graduate. So they are requring of you what they require of other transfer students. Until Iraqis begin to have options to attend schools in countries other than Jordan, the administrators there in Jordan will have the upper hand in the negotiations.

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